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An MLM can have products and still be a scam. Amway is a scam. Google “stop the amway tool scam wordpress”
If World Ventures membership is not a product then I guess my gym membership isn’t either!! My gym MUST be a scam!! I joined, paid all that money, and here I sit on my couch expecting to grow big muscles and a six-pack!!!
Joining something doesn’t guarantee you success, you must DO something!!!!
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